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Marvel Mystery Oil
« on: July 16, 2011, 06:04:53 AM »
I started mixing Marvel Mystery Oil w/ my premix.  The website says you can mix, say for 2 gallons of gas (2 of the 8 oz. of 32:1 premix can be mystery oil).  I know that stuff is great for cleaning out a new bore of foreign material and it has to be pretty decent for crank bearings.  Anyway, i got away w/ it on a recent ride.  I wouldn't do it in a "race" type environment, but just "sport-touring"...no problema.

Which reminds me, i have over 6k miles and continuing on those Nachi Bearings/VXB online (bought all 4 crank bearings for around $50.00 total including shipping....Supertune recommendation...pretty cool eh)?  (Buna-N o-rings <the one used for oil applications> 035-N70...#9452K123 McMaster-Carr part number). <--RB Designs work around for no pips on the bearing.

http://www.2strokeworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=8552.msg65063#msg65063



besides it looks like  :science: at the pump. 

Anyone besides me done it? 
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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2011, 06:55:04 AM »
Starting an oil thread isnt going to help your Karma any:)  As for the VXBs, I am fairly surprised that they are holding up well in the front wheel of a WR450.  The actually seem fairly well built, I have not seen a failure yet and havent tested the materials used in them though.

I doubt I'd put them in an expensive build w/o further experience, OTOH Chuck is likely to have this experience:)
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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2011, 07:03:59 AM »
Starting an oil thread isnt going to help your Karma any:)  I doubt I'd put them in an expensive build w/o further experience, OTOH Chuck is likely to have this experience:)

Mystery oil has been around for a long time.  time to put it to the test.  And Chuck is the very reason i had no worries on the bearings.  Crank is rolling like a mofo.  And i don't pay out the  :butt:



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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2011, 07:41:34 AM »
So has opium, is that next on the test list:)

Considering your experience with motors, I don't think I'd be experimenting but I also dont think there will be any difference.

My informal testing on much less expensive motors is that you can use any oil(including used motor, kitchen corn and used fork) as long as there is plenty of it and ironically enough, properly jetted, things seem to smoke more with less oil(from 20:1 to 50:1).  Don't think something with alot of particulates would be good for cranks long term but who knows, maybe the aluminum lubricates things:)

Since you like to experiment....may I suggest Seth Roberts: http://escholarship.org/uc/item/2xc2h866
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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2011, 03:37:08 PM »
Marvel has already done the experimentation...i'm just confirming if it works or not.  So far w/ a 120 mile ride yesterday, i've had no issues.

Thought some people would like to know, but there's always a few closed minds.  got to stay open minded...failures , especially w/ two strokes, come w/ the territory.  acceptable risk...i've heard so many good things bout marvel mystery oil, i figure i can't go wrong...so far, so good.

normal revs....6 to 8.5k....70 mph cruising at 6~6.5k...no problema.

i road tested it. no issues. you can put this in your fuel, your oil and your tranny.  My machinist really likes the stuff....so why not?
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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2011, 04:02:39 PM »
FUCK. What does it mean? How do I use it? How can I harness it's divine power? The power of FUCK.

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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2011, 10:36:40 PM »
Might want to read this...

http://www.math.uwaterloo.ca/~rblander/snake_oil.txt
well all i can say is i use marvel in all my air tools, not my bikes or cars. i did like the the good words about spectro as i have used that in my vmax since new.

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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2011, 05:35:23 AM »
So are you saying that you're using MMO instead of 2T oil, or in addition to 2T oil?

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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2011, 06:30:49 AM »
So are you saying that you're using MMO instead of 2T oil, or in addition to 2T oil?

i'm using MMO in addition to 2T oil.   it's only 25% of the premix....so if i mix just 1 gallon of 32:1 premix, then 1 oz is MMO and 3 oz is 2T oil.

scroll down to "other uses":

http://www.marvelmysteryoil.com/index.php/site/faq/
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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2011, 07:41:31 AM »
I guess I don't get it.  I'm a fan of the stuff.  I use it in my air tools, and a few squirts in the cylinder each year while winterizing, but why mix it instead of whatever 2T oil you're using?  Not to save an ounce per gallon of $50/gal 2T oil.  Why not just use what you know works?  The consequences if it doesn't seem a little to high for me.
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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2011, 11:13:56 AM »
Their "promo" video says it all...... 1923 technology............ :thumbsdown: Might be good for door hinges and Kevins  motor........... :laugh:

http://www.marvelmysteryoil.com/video/marvel_video.html
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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2011, 12:17:03 PM »
are you just searching for a new way to blow a motor up since you've already covered all the other methods?   :deadhorse:
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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2011, 12:57:59 PM »
If the formula from marvel is from 1923  it cant be nearly as advanced as a modern 2 stroke oil, If you really think about it a good 2 stroke oil has a fairly tough job, Your asking it to protect your engine but still be able to burn cleanly at the same time, 2 things im sure that marvel can do to a certain extent but definitely not to any great extent. Im sure marvel keeps their oil a mystery because if you actually knew the chemical content was you probably wouldnt touch it. Lets save the marvel oil for things like steam engines, harleys and board game spinners

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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2011, 01:05:18 PM »
are you just searching for a new way to blow a motor up since you've already covered all the other methods?   :deadhorse:

this.   :ssh:
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Re: Marvel Mystery Oil
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2011, 01:23:40 PM »
Works great in my air tools and thats the only place I use it...